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Pastors and Worship Leaders

It’s no secret that relationships between pastors and worship leaders are unique. I think pastors and worship leaders alike would agree that this relationship dynamic takes a huge amount of effort and communication. This month I would like to make some suggestive commentary on the semantics of this relationship from the worship leader/artist’s perspective.
Without getting into leadership techniques and personality types I think there are just a few things that I think help maintain and nurture this relationship:

1. Open and honest communication…No big surprises here. Good communication is key in any relationship. The focus here is on open and honest. I have heard of and even been a part of organizations that see the mere desire to be open and honest as subordinate and even disrespectful of the “authority above you…” What many pastors do not understand is that openness and honesty is an artist’s (or anyone’s) way of truly submitting to the authority of someone else. Being open and honest is being vulnerable. Honesty opens your character to correction and instruction. Openness initiates security and trust with another.

2. Mutual Respect… This one is a big. This is the two way street that is often treated like a one lane road. As with communication, respect is a big deal in any relationship but the key word here is mutual. In so many instances the only thing that is mutual in the pastor/worship leader relationship is misunderstanding. It is the worship leader’s duty to have a thoughtful understanding of the pastor’s role and responsibility to the congregation. Likewise, it is the pastor’s responsibility to understand the role of the worship leader and as a key spiritual leader on the church staff to discern the differences. One sure sign of a lack of respect is a lack of regard on one side or the other for the opposite party’s education and experience. Just because a worship leader may have taken a doctrine class in college does not make he or she an authority on the subject. Also, just because a pastor may have taken a church music course or did their internship in a church with a fantastic music program it does not give them the experiential or educational authority to critically comment on a musical arrangement or a singer’s tone or pitch. Each must submit to the other where their talents and spiritual gifts are lacking. Mutual respect means giving authority…not taking it.

3. Trust… If mutual respect is big then trust is “ginormous.” If there is no common trust then the relationship is doomed to be dysfunctional at best and likely will end up hurtful and wounding. Trust gives the permission to fail without dire consequence. Trust fosters creativity and risk taking. Trust allows the courage to act boldly. Trust is the utter confidence in the other’s character to pick you up if you fall and to hoist you upon their shoulder when you succeed. Sadly, I have seen the devastation of broken trust between pastor and worship leader. A worship leader accepts a position at a church, relocates his family and establishes himself in the community of believers. He is looking forward to the elder leadership of the lead pastor and gleaning from his experiential wisdom. Then, in a moment of immaturity or over-eagerness a question asked or action taken is seen as threatening to a, perhaps, insecure pastor and the next thing you know everyone is asking, “Where’d our Worship Leader go…?” Or, conversely, a worship leader comes into a church with an agenda from the beginning that he would spend time building relationships and at just the right time feel the “call” to begin his own ministry…Right across the street. No matter how sweet the situation might seem if there is not trust…get out! You see, no matter how many times a pastor has been burned or a worship leader has been misunderstood and manipulated you have to trust. In my opinion (funny how I always get that in there, huh…?) if we do not trust one another in the Body of Christ we cease to trust God. Though there are many untrustworthy acts that go on throughout the Church it is no reason not to trust. Use wisdom and discernment then trust. To trust a fellow believer is to trust that in and through Christ they will do and act rightly according to the Word of God and the leading of the Spirit. So, by trusting them we trust Christ. Will it go south sometimes…? Sure. But still trust…In God through Christ Jesus and in one another.

This short thesis is by no means comprehensive or exhaustive. It is just a few tidbits about a unique relationship and how it functions in the life of the church. Also, I do not claim to be an end all authority on the subject. I have been on both sides of this fence. I have had the good relationships and I’ve had the bad as well. Take them both and there ya have… I’m now in double digits regarding my sum of ministry years and I am still trying to figure it out.

Aaron Unthank
http://www.aaronunthank.com

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Written: 04/08/2008 | Category: Aaron Unthank Comments: 11
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  1.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 04/09/2008

    What a topic!! I have so many thoughts on this. Most Pastors are Visionaries, with plans, agendas and goals and most Worship Leaders are Creative people, with ideas, a sense of freedom and a knowledge of and a trust in God that most Pastors don't have, and even if they have it, it is still reflected differently becuase let's face it, Creative people are different, they see things differently than most people. Pastors, because they have so many things to consider during one church service sometimes get caught up with the plan and agenda in place, rather than the goal of each service and the means the Lord provides to achieve HIS goal in each service. That alone is such a great divide that it takes the trust, the mutual respect and THEN the open and honest communications to bridge the gap. One of my many thoughts on this subject is that I think Pastors are free in their spirit, but not so free in their minds (not that they don't want to be, they just aren't able to be sometimes) because leading and feeding the people are more important (in their minds)at times, than getting the congregation into the Presence of God and having the Lord change them, so that they could truly benefit from his leading them in the Word of God.

    The two leaders should really be best friends with one goal, taking care of the souls that the Lord has placed in their care. The Pastor brings the Word, the Worship Leader brings the Presence of God, therefore together the congregation receives the Letter and the Spirit. They should be a team and know when to "pass the baton" back and forth to each other to achieve His goal...not the Pastor's goals...not the Worship Leader's goals...God's goal. These two offices should NEVER leave room for miscommunciations, hidden agendas nor ulterior motives.

  2.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 04/09/2008

    Communication is vital in all relationships. It is unfair and even cruel to NOT communicate and expect others just to "know" what we are thinking...just ask my husband, he'll tell you that I am just plain mean when I expect him to "read my mind" LOL.

    Pastor's must cast a vision. That is their job, as they have received the vision for their flock. They must train, equip and empower their leaders.

    A Worship Leader's job is critical...in order to do it well, he or she must know what God wants to do with this ministry, know where the Pastors are headed and what is expected of them as worshippers, musicians, and team leaders. Of course, all of this is dependent on open communication.

    Pastors must trust in those they deign to lead in whatever capacity is their call. If a Pastor cannot trust the one he or she has put in a position of authority, then that person does not belong in a position of authority within that church.

    No one in any body is untouchable. You hit the nail on the head, mutual respect is critical to the health of the body. It is not disrespectful to question authority. It shows good leadership skills. I have only seen the door to the enemy open wide within organizations in which the leadership is blindly followed. A good leader welcomes questions and looks forward to the opportunity to teach. Jesus taught the disciples all the time. He expected them to use the authority He gave to them, once they were taught. In fact, when they were corrected, it was because they had not walked in the authority they had been given.

  3.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 04/10/2008

    Aaron Unthank's avatar Ladies,
    Good comments. Allow me to be a bit controversial for conversation's sake. You both put a lot of your emphasis on the pastor as the one "in charge" so to speak. You both spoke of pastors as visionaries. Actually, the biblical view of the spiritual gift of pastor has little to do w/ visoneering. It is more akin to a caregving teacher than the visionary leader... How would your comments change if the relationship was approached as a partnership of spiritual giftings and mutual submission to one another? What do you think...?

  4.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 04/10/2008

    All the above comments are very good! May I put my "two cents worth" in? Growing up in what is considered in our organization a large Pentecostal church, I was the praise & worship team leader [if that really counts for anythig?]. Actually, there were at least 4-5 other people with me along with a full live band. [ I LOVE live bands]. I was blessed to be able to minsiter in song UNDER several great pastors. I'm glad to say that all of them gave the worship team liberty to "lead" in worship. "Leading" in worship is the key! I have attended other churches in which a worship leader felt like he/she could "force" people to worship if the same song could keep going for an endless amount of time! After a long while of feeling like I was being intimidated to worship, my desire to genuinely worship God was literally killed by over-zealous worship leaders seemingly trying to make a point [whatever their point was].
    As a "worship leader" and now a pastor, it is my belief that the responsibility of both is to CREATE an ATMOSPHERE in which our worship of the Lord comes willingly and enthusiastically! When there is genuine worship in our local churches, God is glorified and His people are truly blessed!

  5.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 04/14/2008

    Aaron Unthank's avatar Hey Rev...
    Thank you for your comments on worship leadership. I agree that a forced approach does create an intimidating worship environment and does not produce a sincere congregation of worshipers. There is one subtle inference in your response that I would like to respond to. In your commentary on your work in the church as a worship leader you capitalized the word "under" when alluding to your relationship w/ your pastor. If you mean "under" the way I think you mean it. You mean that the pastor is the absolute authority (under Christ) in that local body. If so, I have to take issue w/ that. Any time a church is set up w/ a senior pastor as sole authority on everything from the checkbook to the color of the choir robes it is a recipe for disaster. I will qualify this statement theoretically by this example... In the household most of the time the man or husband is seen as the authority figure and leader of the house and there is little qualm about that in most cases. However, as many things are concerned the man submits to his wife's authority. Things like nurturing the children, keeping and decorating the house, cooking and baking plus many other nuances of life. Does this submission make the man weak or less a leader...? No! It makes him smart...Not to mention well fed and wearing white sh

  6.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 04/14/2008

    Hello Aaron,
    I used the word "under" in reference to "I served under several great pastors when I was the Praise & Worship team Leader". At that time I did feel that I was under the leadership and authority of a pastor. I looked to that person as a spiritual leader and voluntarily placed myself "under" him. Of course I did not perceive him to be a dictator over me, and I was always capable of song selection and tried to be sensitive to the moving of the Spirit of God. I am aware there are times that worhjp leaders / musicians over-step their roles; howevr, thankfully that does NOT often happen. It is my opinion that a church needs a "leader" NOT a "driver" [force-full demands]. My reference to the word "under" would be that a senior pastor IS OVER a Worship Leader / Music Director, but both need to work together in achieving our goal of refreshing the saints and pulling in the sinners. As far as my pastoral personality, I believe otheres who know me would critque me as perhaps not being aggressive enough in "keeping people in line".
    My method of leadership is a pretty laid back approach in leading people. In my observations of church congregations all over, there seems to be a growing spirit of rebellion against church authorities just as there is rebellion against authority of any kind in the secular world. Well, to recap all that, serving "under" is NOT a bad thing, if it is done voluntarily and scripturally.

  7.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 04/14/2008

    Aaron Unthank's avatar ...Okay, sorry. My computer shut down for no apparent reason. Anyway, what I was saying is that the wife keeps the husband well fed and wearing white shirts instead of pink...If you know what I mean. The man submits to the authority of his wife b/c there are certain things she is naturally wired and gifted to do. Does it mean the husband is not he leader of his home...? Absolutely not! He is actually a better leader b/c he knows how to submit. There are many in ministry today that simply don't think that principle applies to the Church.

    Alright...That is enough of a rant for today.

  8.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 04/14/2008

    Aaron my friend [you are my SG and Christian friend]------ We ARE on the same page. I agree with ALL that you have said!

  9.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 04/14/2008

    Aaron Unthank's avatar Hey Rev,
    Thanks for your responses. I think I fully understand your perspective now. I appreciate your willingness to engage in discussion over this. You are correct about people rebelling against authority of all kinds church, civil and otherwise. But that's a whole other topic...

  10.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 04/24/2008

    Aaron wrote: "In your commentary on your work in the church as a worship leader you capitalized the word "under" when alluding to your relationship w/ your pastor. If you mean "under" the way I think you mean it. You mean that the pastor is the absolute authority (under Christ) in that local body. If so, I have to take issue w/ that. Any time a church is set up w/ a senior pastor as sole authority on everything from the checkbook to the color of the choir robes it is a recipe for disaster."

    First of all, let me say that I agree with you 100% that there should be communication, respect, and trust when it comes to the relationships of Pastors w/ assistant pastors/worship leaders.

    However, I disagree with your thoughts above. The Pastor is the God appointed head of the church. He is the final authority under Christ. As far as being the one who handles the checkbook and other details such as those, that's what deacons and church staff are for, but the Pastor should have the final say in all matters. According to Heb. 13, we are to obey these men because they must give an account to the Lord in the decisions they make during their ministry. As a music minister, I understand the Pastor's vision for the church as well as his guidlines and his authority. I would by no means overstep his boundaries and take things into my own hands, because then I wouldn't be following what the Bible says. Does that mean I have no liberty to let God use me during services? Of course not! So if the pastor says KJV only or no contemporary music, etc., the I stay within those parameters. If a music leader doesn't agree with those principles, then he should move on.

    So to take issue with the idea that the Pastor is the absolute authority in the church, you would be taking issue with what the Bible says. The pastor or "shepherd" is who we follow while he follow's Christ (1 Cor. 11:1). The pastor will answer for what he has done. However that's why as Christians it's so important to know your pastor and know where he stands on the Bible. But you Can't argue with what the Bible says.

  11.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 04/27/2008

    Aaron Unthank's avatar Kyle,
    Thank you for your response and so readily stating your opinion. Although, I am afraid that your comments misrepresent not only my intention but the Scriptures as well. Your comment, “The Pastor is the God appointed head of the church…” is fatally flawed. The ONLY God appointed head of the church is Christ. And there cannot be 2 final authorities. There is only one…that is Christ. Read Col 1:15-23. It is just one of many passages that firmly establishes the pre-eminence and authority of Christ. The great thing is that Christ does not stand over us as divine dictator. He actually gives authority. (Mat 10) He submits to the authority of the Father but has been given all authority in heaven and on earth and to establish his authority he gives it away, thereby gaining more. So, the pastor who holds to his authority w/ an iron fist becomes a dictator and ceases to follow the example of Christ. It doesn’t mean that he doesn’t love God…I think he is just misled. If a pastor says that the KJV is the only version you should read he is acting as a dictator (and, in my opinion, is somewhat ignorant regarding biblical translation) and effectively inhibiting some people from understanding or even reading the Scriptures. Tell me, how is that different from the Early Roman Catholic Church insisting the Scriptures could only be read and understood in the original Greek by professional clergy? The outcome from the active questioning of that authority is the reason you can accuse me of “…arguing with what the Bible says…” We would have no Bible to read if it wasn’t for people like Luther, Wycliffe, Tyndale, etc…Those who risked and some who lost their lives for the sake of biblical translation into their native tongue. Do I argue with what the Bible says…? YOU BET!!! I have had many debates w/ people and God about what certain passages mean. I would dishonor the aforementioned men and the Scriptures themselves if I didn’t. Let me put it this way. If you are married, do you argue with what your wife says…? I hope I’m not the only one who does... Does that mean I don’t love her and value her more than any other person on earth? Absolutely and emphatically not! It is quite the opposite. I argue b-e-c-a-u-s-e I love her and want to understand her better. Same thing w/ the Scriptures. I fight, argue, and wrestle with it because I love it. Sometimes I come out of the fight beaten up and proven guilty but I also find healing and pardon from the same source.
    At any rate, you have missed the intent of my entire article and following comments if you think I am somehow opposed to submitting to authority. I readily submit to those who have authority and those who are in positions above me and I see that as biblical. Most everyone possesses authority of some sort or in some way relating to a specific topic or gifting. I am a fool not to submit to ANYONE who has knowledge or authority in an area that I am inferior. But just b/c you have authority in one area of knowledge or gifting it doesn’t make you an authority in every area of knowledge or gifting. This is where I have seen pastors abuse their positions. Because of the position they hold they presume authority in all things and refuse to submit to another’s even though, regarding gifting and knowledge ,the other person, staff member, etc… may hold more actual authority. I am the type of person that thinks if you disagree w/ someone in authority and the disagreement is serious enough that there needs to be some dialogue about it. I would never just leave because the “Pastor” is not the only one who will give and answer for how he has lived his life… So will I and so will you.

    I think I could write all day on this topic but I’ll spare you. Not to mention I’m exhausted. Thank you Kyle and everyone else who has posted comments pertaining to this article, I very much enjoy the discourse.



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